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Hydra.

Postby dweiler » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:37 am

Hereby an official warning to Hydra. for flaming/insulting:

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[23:50:59] <hydra.> ur mum dropped u on ur head as kid?
[23:51:01] <Drahque> we nearly lost cause of u
[23:51:03] <hydra.> autistic or something?
[23:51:09] <Drahque> yes im autistic
[23:51:11] <Drahque> got a problem?
[23:51:15] <Madridista> rofl
[23:51:17] <Madridista> HAHAHAHHAAHHAHA
[23:51:19] <Madridista> HAHAHAHAHAHAH
[23:51:19] <hydra.> no, ur not fit in the community
[23:51:20] <Madridista> HAAHAHHAHAAH
[23:51:21] <Madridista> AHAHHAHAHA
[23:51:23] <Madridista> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[23:51:23] <hydra.> so i dont have a problem :D
[23:51:25] <Litecp> haha
[23:51:26] <Madridista> GIRLS
[23:51:32] <hydra.> just stay at ur special school and later work at isolated workplace
[23:51:32] <Madridista> THIS IS NOT THE FORUM

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 [23:54:27] <Madridista> I WANNA PLAY
 [23:54:29] <hydra.> the hydrogen shortage at ur birth, that was an accident
 [23:54:32] <Madridista> !sign
 [23:54:32] <hydra.> this why ur autistic now
 [23:54:38] <hydra.> and this why we lost the game


I want to say here and now that I don't mind some heated up arguments or disagreeing on stuff. But we draw the line when people are just trying to humiliate someone to the bone.

We are still trying to be a mature and mannered league. This kind of behaviour is totally unacceptable.

Again, arguing and disagreeing doesn't bother me. I am not going to punish anyone if they call the other a noob or a whiner; but this is just out of line. At least respect the other players in the league.

Didn't hope I ever had to say something like this in our league, where did the common sense go?
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Re: Hydra.

Postby TUBBYzieKiNG » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:55 pm

Hi mickey. Ive been wanting do this topic sooner but ive been busy/lazy

The flame indeed wasnt very nice, but ill stand by every word i said, and hope Drahque finds this as offensive as possible (he admitted to be autistic btw, so by saying this is offensive ur kinda discriminating him also) :D Drahque after all gave me a freelose in the lihl league. 1 young witch doctor lvl 1 aka 100 value, he whisped me before game start "we lose", though he hates me also he would never whisp me cause of game related stuff. As some probably know, he tried VERY hard to get me banned for discing a game :D This is obviously a freelose, yet ur searching the channel for "insults" while stuff like this is going on. Even the opposite team saw this obvious attempt. I thought the LIHL was started as a place where "'"""""pro""""""" players can play a game without smurfers/dodgers/NOOBS/FREELOSERS?
Another thing about Drahque: The so proclaimed game he actually used to get vouched... was 3v4 from lvl 2 ALL drawed except him
Like today I beat onslaught+johanna+kingtubby on enemy team, without even having a merc on our team and kingtubby being merc. I must be doing something correct in order to beat someone who has years of experience and 1k+ games.
Of course he never mentions this. I mean, did u even check the replay/chat of this game?.. Since yesterday i quit LIHL its just become too much, little trolls like this freelosing and admins not giving a fuck.. I made this topic because in LIHL i see guys flaming this kid everywhere (my "flame" was nothing compared to this) So i hope at least some players will share their thoughts on this.... Subject :) I know he would never ever get unvouched since hes every admins best friend but i just hope i raise some awareness of wtf kind of league u guys actually made..

Btw since im no hardcore forumer i dunno how to add replay of that game, was 2 days ago lihl 2s me n drahque team vs Madridista & ? if an admin could do this for me would be very nice. Madridista saved replay also
No offense to any admins or bot owners, but try and fix the game related issues instead of the "flame"


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Re: Hydra.

Postby Diablo_ » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:11 pm

Even if what you say would be true (I'm not necessarily denying your statements/opinion about Drahque) flaming is never a good choice and even worse than someone failing a game. And your cursing and flaming was, as Mick said, way beyond acceptable and if it was me to decide, I would have given more than a warning.
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Re: Hydra.

Postby TUBBYzieKiNG » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:24 pm

Diablo_ wrote:Even if what you say would be true (I'm not necessarily denying your statements/opinion about Drahque) flaming is never a good choice and even worse than someone failing a game. And your cursing and flaming was, as Mick said, way beyond acceptable and if it was me to decide, I would have given more than a warning.
If players don't fit the league (be it skill wise or because of attitude) our Mods will handle accordingly. Maybe not after 1 day, maybe not even after 2 weeks, but after enough time/complaints they will make a proper decision.


Yeah well, i look to battle.net as a place where people come to play, not to have a social community. The thing that bothers me is first the game which he posted in which he got vouched, did anyone even check the replay/"flame" in allied chat towards me? (not that i care any about flame) Second, freelose in LIHL, WTF??? . Third: i wasnt flaming him, he openly admits to have this mental disease and i gently explain to him a theory how this could have happened. (See, easy to turn things around) So basically idc if i get unvouched or not the way lihl is at the moment i dont play anyway. Maybe in a near future, who knows thanks for commenting.

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Re: Hydra.

Postby dweiler » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:33 pm

Players are allowed to make mistakes in games. If we see he does this repeatedly and/or on purpose he will be unvouched.

This says enough about you:
The flame indeed wasnt very nice, but ill stand by every word i said, and hope Drahque finds this as offensive as possible


I made this topic because in LIHL i see guys flaming this kid everywhere (my "flame" was nothing compared to this) So i hope at least some players will share their thoughts on this.


Above is the reason why I am sick and tired of it. I have warned 2 people now for insulting, the next one will get an unvouch. Of course, if Drahque humiliates someone to the bone he will get a punishment too.

Yeah well, i look to battle.net as a place where people come to play, not to have a social community.


Then stay at battle.net.

You don't get unvouched at this moment, we are just asking you to act a bit mature, because we want to have a mature league in which all people can play without being humiliated, insulted or flamed. Thanks for your consideration.

This is the replay: http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 712464.w3g
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Re: Hydra.

Postby TUBBYzieKiNG » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:53 pm

I made this topic because in LIHL i see guys flaming this kid everywhere (my "flame" was nothing compared to this) So i hope at least some players will share their thoughts on this.


Above is the reason why I am sick and tired of it. I have warned 2 people now for insulting, the next one will get an unvouch. Of course, if Drahque humiliates someone to the bone he will get a punishment too.



Dont u also find it kinda strange 9/10 of these cases happen against Drahque? i know i dont believe in such extreme coincidence. Drahque is the rudest kid i know on warcraft, difference is he whisps it and he doesnt flame directly to you, he flames ur relatives... As i said in Diablo comment, idc if u believe me or not, nor about unvouch, this league is just way too corrupt, i see ur doing ur best to make it a nice place and i respect that. But just open your eyes please.
(00:44 / Allied) Litecp: this hydra is fantastic
(00:47 / Allied) Litecp: and drah is just..
(00:54 / Allied) Madridista: hydra is a nice guy
Never has anyone "flamed" me as hard as Drahque before he entered LIHL. MatthewDK account. Next time i will try and print screen and post it here, shouldve done it before but i dont like ruining other people's gaming experiences unless its something game related not "flame" xD


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Re: Hydra.

Postby dweiler » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:18 pm

This is the game where ALL drawed except Drahque (in your words): http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 572502.w3g

I see azzwrestler didn't draw too, so your claim is in fact false. People are allowed to not draw in a pub game anyway, when half of the team does not want to draw there is nothing wrong with it (especially if 1 of the other 2 is a clanmate of yours and wants to draw for that reason).

Again, if I see any behaviour that is out of line of Drahque I will discipline him too, I don't have any favourites. I'm just tired of our league dumbing down by more and more flames, and flames that go way over the line will be punished from now on, to not ruin the fun of 99% of the players who come here to have high-skilled, mannered games without making fun other people's diseases.
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Re: Hydra.

Postby Drahque » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:41 pm

To be, this is just kindergarten and 1st grade all over:

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[23:50:59] <hydra.> ur mum dropped u on ur head as kid?
[23:51:03] <hydra.> autistic or something?
[23:51:19] <hydra.> no, ur not fit in the community
[23:51:32] <hydra.> just stay at ur special school and later work at isolated workplace

[23:54:29] <hydra.> the hydrogen shortage at ur birth, that was an accident
[23:54:32] <hydra.> this why ur autistic now
[23:54:38] <hydra.> and this why we lost the game

I never asked you to comment on my life or your theories about autism. This is indeed just straightforward try to hurt me, which also is seen by your own words:
TUBBYzieKiNG wrote:The flame indeed wasnt very nice, but ill stand by every word i said, and hope Drahque finds this as offensive as possible (he admitted to be autistic btw, so by saying this is offensive ur kinda discriminating him also) :D


But then you change the story:
TUBBYzieKiNG wrote:Third: i wasnt flaming him, he openly admits to have this mental disease and i gently explain to him a theory how this could have happened. (See, easy to turn things around).

Let me tell you one thing, autism is NOT a disease. A disease can be cured, but autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder - which means the brain is different from a neurotypical. At the current moment there is no explanations to why the brain develops differently, but one thing is for sure, that is has nothing to do with lack of hydrogen. ^^,

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Re: Hydra.

Postby TUBBYzieKiNG » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:46 pm

MickeyTheMousie wrote:This is the game where ALL drawed except Drahque (in your words): http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 572502.w3g

I see azzwrestler didn't draw too, so your claim is in fact false. People are allowed to not draw in a pub game anyway, when half of the team does not want to draw there is nothing wrong with it (especially if 1 of the other 2 is a clanmate of yours and wants to draw for that reason).

Again, if I see any behaviour that is out of line of Drahque I will discipline him too, I don't have any favourites. I'm just tired of our league dumbing down by more and more flames, and flames that go way over the line will be punished from now on, to not ruin the fun of 99% of the players who come here to have high-skilled, mannered games without making fun other people's diseases.


My point wasnt the non draw, azzwrestler and mathewdk did indeed not draw, 2/7 dont draw, and of course the 2 on the winning team. My point is he actually got vouched for the "legion in house league" by this game.. idc about the lose. And since you started try and point out my characteristic by my online actions, what does this make you? (not trying to "flame" btw) just find this a very unsportive comment and kinda hypocrite.
I will end this topic now since u dont seem to fully understand my statement.
Hopefully meet on more promising topics in the future :)

(00:10 / Allied) MathewDK: he 100 % merc all games long ye
(00:10 / Allied) MathewDK: must beat him
(00:10 / Allied) hifive: don t agree
(00:10 / Allied) MathewDK: well
(00:10 / Allied) sexybeast: he wont merc if we say no merc
(00:10 / Allied) MathewDK: we didnt ALL agree
(00:10 / Allied) sexybeast: ik him
(00:10 / Allied) sexybeast: cmon..
(00:10 / Allied) MathewDK: so me and hifive can go mercs

Just some more examples of how he won this pro game :D

(00:46 / All) MathewDK: nah
(00:49 / All) MathewDK: I just wanna beat kingtubby
(00:52 / All) MathewDK: cause he gave me 3 losses
(00:57 / All) KiNGTUBBY: in 3v4 u see ur shot
(00:58 / All) KiNGTUBBY: )

(02:21 / Allied) sexybeast: would be nice if u drawed it tbh
(02:22 / Allied) KiNGTUBBY: k
(02:23 / Allied) ztx)onslaught: we down a man
(02:25 / Allied) sexybeast: they my mates..
(02:28 / All) hifive: i m not :<
(02:30 / Allied) MathewDK: they my enemies


(15:34 / Allied) MathewDK: but im sure one of these 3
(15:36 / Allied) MathewDK: do maphack

I thought blaming players of MH without evidence was concidered flame and causing mayhem also?
If this the sportmanship you want in LIHL (not to mention freelose INSIDE the league) i'd say gl hf




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Re: Hydra.

Postby Drahque » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:52 pm

Kingtubby/Hydra, the game your referring to, is a PUBLIC game played over a month ago, and there is no rules about drawing in public games - as Dweller states:
MickeyTheMousie wrote:People are allowed to not draw in a pub game, and when half of the team doesn't want to draw there's nothing wrong with it.


Are you sure this is the right place for you? A league is a group of players who respects each and one of the members in it. It doens't seem as if you got the same principle of what Lihl should be or the same state of mind, as what is intended, at least.
TUBBYzieKiNG wrote:Yeah well, i look to battle.net as a place where people come to play, not to have a social community.

TUBBYzieKiNG wrote:So basically idc if i get unvouched or not the way lihl is at the moment i dont play anyway.

TUBBYzieKiNG wrote:Since yesterday i quit LIHL its just become too much, little trolls like this freelosing and admins not giving a fuck.. I made this topic because in LIHL i see guys flaming this kid everywhere (my "flame" was nothing compared to this) So i hope at least some players will share their thoughts on this.... Subject :) i just hope i raise some awareness of wtf kind of league u guys actually made..


If you don't like the league as it is, then either make suggestions on how to improve it, or else play somewhere else.
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Re: Hydra.

Postby TUBBYzieKiNG » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:58 pm

Drahque wrote:To be, this is just kindergarten and 1st grade all over:

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[23:50:59] <hydra.> ur mum dropped u on ur head as kid?
[23:51:03] <hydra.> autistic or something?
[23:51:19] <hydra.> no, ur not fit in the community
[23:51:32] <hydra.> just stay at ur special school and later work at isolated workplace

[23:54:29] <hydra.> the hydrogen shortage at ur birth, that was an accident
[23:54:32] <hydra.> this why ur autistic now
[23:54:38] <hydra.> and this why we lost the game

I never asked you to comment on my life or your theories about autism. This is indeed just straightforward try to hurt me, which also is seen by your own words:
TUBBYzieKiNG wrote:The flame indeed wasnt very nice, but ill stand by every word i said, and hope Drahque finds this as offensive as possible (he admitted to be autistic btw, so by saying this is offensive ur kinda discriminating him also) :D

But then you change the story:
TUBBYzieKiNG wrote:Third: i wasnt flaming him, he openly admits to have this mental disease and i gently explain to him a theory how this could have happened. (See, easy to turn things around).

Let me tell you one thing, autism is NOT a disease. A disease can be cured, but autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder - which means the brain is different from a neurotypical. At the current moment there is no explanations to why the brain develops differently, but one thing is for sure, that is has nothing to do with lack of hydrogen. ^^,




Yeah Drahque, thanks for teaching me this stuff, im sure ur the pro at it. Thing is, this aint autism/asperger syndrome discussion. Its about you freelosing on purpose and my comment towards diablo was just en example to turn things around. The game u got vouched for as example. We both know you did this freelose on purpose, you even whispered me ;) Again, i know u wont get unvouched and i sincerely dont hope so i dont want you fucking up more games for me on ent18, just stay there plz.
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Re: Hydra.

Postby dweiler » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:01 pm

I do understand your point, but when I have only words and no proves I can't do anything with it. The only thing i could check was that replay, and the facts said different things than you claimed.

If you now know that in the LIHL we deal differently with situations when we are frustrated I am completely satisfied.
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Re: Hydra.

Postby Drahque » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:09 pm

TUBBYzieKiNG wrote:Thing is, this aint autism/asperger syndrome discussion. Its about you freelosing on purpose and my comment towards diablo was just en example to turn things around. The game u got vouched for as example.

You got this all wrong, this topic is certainly not about me, maybe you should try to read the topic name: "Hydra.". Let me summarize; it's about how you disrespected me.

And maybe you should start to get your facts right and stop with the lies ... Stop making up things:
TUBBYzieKiNG wrote:He whisped me before game start "we lose", though he hates me also he would never whisp me cause of game related stuff.

Drahque is the rudest kid i know on warcraft, difference is he whisps it and he doesnt flame directly to you, he flames ur relatives... As i said in Diablo comment, idc if u believe me or not, nor about unvouch, this league is just way too corrupt,

I never whisp nobody, and if I do, it's certainly game related. You relatives? Come on, do you seriously think I would waste time speaking to your friends, family or whoever your implying to? Please get some screenshot(s) or prove and stop make things up:
MickeyTheMousie wrote:The only thing i could check was that replay, and the facts said different things than you claimed.


I do respect EVERYONE in this League, even the people who flame me. Every day is a new day, and I believe in the best in people, even if they've been an asshole to me the previous day - I get over it the next day. Maybe you should try the same.

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Re: Hydra.

Postby supersexyy » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:19 pm

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