appeal

[MrNoob]

I`ve been unvouched for a game: (I cant find gamename since its not posted in forum)
for leaking 74 units in 3s at lvl 17 when enemy team save 10-17( with 0 siege towers in team) with delays. As far as i remember there was post here about should delays be banned or not and all lihl mods were againts it cuz its a part of the game and it happens in allmost 5/6 of games.
We can play without them but should be clear if we are allowed to use them or not.

I know its abuse but i would like my unvouche period to be reduced, if possible, of course

[HealByColor]

I will reduce your ban to 24 hours please do not do this again. Take this as a warning

[supersexyy]

Clarification on delays rule?

[pewpew lasergun]

delays are allowed
clogging on purpose is not. ( at discretion of mod )
74 leaks = on purpose ^^

please refrain from reporting, clogging, flaming ... we had a horrible season because of that.

[supersexyy]

Oh so this is nothing about delaying.

[Krayyzie]

clog is part of every 3s and 4s game, how good it would be if this would actually be punished by mods all the time to get rid of it, now just a random out of all clog got punished...
I guess you played against the wrong players

[Diablo_]

As long as your team wasn't below 50% of the recommended value you shouldn't be banned with the current rules (and even then only if you clogged 2 lvls in a row).

[MrNoob]

We werent below 50%, but we built delays for like 300-500 gold since it was race 17 3vs0 heals and we had no siege towers.

[Don_Killuminati]

U got archer bears and a other with goliath :
U said to build all gold on delay , u also build a hydra on delay + and more important , u said to split ur towers. ( 76leaks on 3s )
U had no chance to win race so the last hope for you since u are not manner was to abuse with cheatie clog .
So plz mister Noob, no need to argue when ur clog is so obvious mate .
Well Diablo, tough in lihl, mods was free to judge when clog are or not since this 50% value recommended rule is pretty useless because we all know how to clog with 50% + value.

[HealByColor]

Exactly don

[MrNoob]

Bullsh*t talk! Who made u race us don? We pushed 7/7 7/8 7/8 at lvl 12 and we had 0 heals. Any send 14/15/16 would be GG. Who made u go for lvl 17?
We had to go 17 cuz thats the only level u could die but whats ur excuse? And you should not say who can judge and who cannnot.
For one last time. I know what we did is abuse, but that was the only way if u want to win, We took 95% risk of loosing with overpushing but its ur problem u didnt see that.

Thing is this happens in many of our games and only I have ever been punished for that? Like also game was 3v1 (ofc i make calls, i dont want others to get punished) and still.

I dont like abuses, but i dont like more the idea to let the whole game on Luck of what king skill u will take and if u will have towers to hold a level. Thats why there are tactics, thats why there is thinking, something ur not very good of

[Don_Killuminati]

So no send on 14/15/16 justifies any abuse ?
So next time if you don't send before 17 should i PP ?
That's never happends and u are the only one to do it ( if you don't agree, prooves ) : in lihl i played like 1000games and when people clog they build maximum 1tot and don't build siege but never SPLIT army + 700golds delay.
If i wanna enjoy see you dead on 17 it's my right since on my plans i do not calculate any abuses .
U pushed 7/8 ok, but without cheating we won anyways with 3heals ahead.
And on tactics, we won without your cheat mate , when u think about strategy, you don't calculate cheating like i said ..
Anyways i don't know how u can argue when u cheating with : '' but if they sent before we was dead so we are allowed to cheat and abuse as well ''
Your logic is pretty defective .
P.S : Without that cheating you was not #1 since that game cost you +30elo
So enjoy your abuse trophy mate

[MrNoob]

Good thinkin. Again u speak only half true bullsh*t. I dont even have to explain about the last thing u wrote since its another bull*shit.

Even ur team mate in that game Achillesgr told u its all ur fault for loosing like this cuz u decided this kind of play. We had any rights to do what we did since it was only option.

"Clogging

General clog definition:
When a team leaks too much at similar interval, creeps and sends get clogged up at dark green area, animation clusters, and units move slower than their normal pace being hindered while running to king(approximately 60% leak without send).

There cannot be two consecutive clogs happening (clog defined by general definition). If so, value has to be close to half recommended value (+/- 50 val), or that team must !f"

I dont see anything that forbids what we did.

[KeeRo]

i think we need another rule against clog,for example not doing split units to make a leak absurd (like 73 units in 3s)
pewpew were right, last season was rly bad.

[iightfyre]

Just unvouch players who openly want to exploit any game mechanic to give them an unfair advantage. I'm so sick of people do anything to win in this league. Just play your fucking lane and build appropriate towers.

Those who clog, split, anti stuck, undervalue, etc are doing the same thing as maphackers, king jugglers, team stackers, dodgers, plug pullers, etc. Trying to gain an unfair advantage in order to win; or to prevent elo loss.

The ONLY thing I can agree with is splitting your creeps on lvl 3 5 or 7 with the intent of clearing your lane. That, IMO, is a smart way to arrange creeps to attack ur towers in a strategical way, the way we build on the wall instead of the middle.. and why we put melee in front of ranged towers.

#sosickofcrybabies
#sosickofcheaters
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