[LTD] [5 Players - VK abuse]

[Kaouaille]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/customstats/legio ... e/9235219/
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega #50
Your Warcraft III Username: El_Sexta_Espada
Violator's Warcraft III Username:
007a@useast
al3azme@useast
barabulika@europe
omfgasmurf-@europe
51.ayer@europe

Violated Rule(s):
1- Solo send (only red & blue)
2- Votekick abuse (all 5 of them)
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
1- Round 1
2- All game long since round 3 or 4 (it took 4 attempts and Team 2 about to lose before 51.ayer joined the votekick) (when one player in the opposing team disconnected)
Any further thoughts:

I will explain the context of the game, as those players tried to argue about whether to ban me or not :

# Red and blue, obviously Real-Life acquaintances, weren't focused on the chatlog AT ALL. Teal and I planned to send Warriors on Round 1.
As we saw that not only Blue was 1-0, but Red also went for 2-1 upgrade, we canceled the call. Unfortunately, teal had already sent.
We still canceled the call cuz it would've been weak as fuck.

Red, still not paying attention to the chatlog, didn't see that we made that call, didn't see either that we canceled it. He saw the warrior send, then him & blue sent at the very last second. I tried to follow (even though that would've sucked), but failed at last second.
Watch the timing carefully, and you'll see that I really tried. They really fucked it up, not me.


It's probably a lack of pragmatism from me, but I diagnosed a rule-breaking here from red/blue, so, since the other team could already see the send occurred (no ghosting at all), I wanted to tell them what happened.

After that the mood in the team wasn't great (Red told the opposing what I was doing, for instance, that's another rule-breaking behavior), but the game had to go on. So I kept going on.
I'm trying to prevent from a poor argument from those haters : I didn't solo send. The warriors were a follow, then I kept sending some small units to get more gold, in order to get more wisp/lumber upgrades. If you check my gold precisely, I'm always almost short, like 2-4 gold. Without those sends, I wouldn't be able to push. If I don't push, I don't earn more lumber.
In the end, I sent 2 Blood Orcs on 7, so you can't say I'm "game ruining" : only red, the incomer, sent more than me on 7.


Also, Team 2 had obviously NO reason to ban me, I mean, are you kicking a "game ruining" player, when your team is LOSING ? That makes no sense : if my team is winning, I can't be a game ruiner.
Team 2 players kicked me because they were scared of losing and mad because I refused to draw.
Red and blue kicked me purely because they hated me.

I don't know how the duration of ban is calculated, and I don't want to disturb the admins decision, but I think that kind of behavior should be punished with severity.

[Kaouaille]

fail edit

[007a]

1- teal did send first then you blame then i send with him and i told the team to send cuz teal did send alone that big mistake to waste 60 wood for thing we should go with him 2- and you blame and trying to kick me for no reasno and i told you this a ban Reason and then you trying a to kick me and then a enemy team got discconunt and then i attack you back cuz you trying to votekick me all enemy team thinking im the right cuz you did send alone round 3 Remember ? and i didnt send alone round 1 teal did first so we should send with him and you didnt send with us so we 3 team agree to send 1 and you Not u keep send 2 alone and send 3 alone so thank you for reporting me idk for what reasno and and i try to kick him need 1 more player to kick him but enemy team pressed votekick and we kick him

at the end im sorry for you but i didnt do anything break the rules

thanks check the replay

[007a]

and we did draw the game after we kick him and he wont draw that's why enemy team kick him

[jamil]

he solo sent, our team was informed to kick for solo sending, he broke rules. Kick is valid especially when own teammates tell us to kick!

[Kaouaille]

he solo sent, our team was informed to kick for solo sending, he broke rules. Kick is valid especially when own teammates tell us to kick!

You're allowed to kick for game-ruining.
# How can I be game-ruining if we're winning ?
# Just 2 other players, pre-mate especially, hating me and asking for the kick, isn't a proof. Teal never joined the votekick for instance.
# How can I be game ruining when I never leak.
# How can I be game ruining when I send 2 blood orcs on 7, along with the team.

Besides, you can draw a game with the same amount of players as to kick.
If you really wanted to draw, you could. You kicked me instead.


I'm not going to argue much more, as everything is in my first post.
Man up and face the truth. I doubt that denial will soften your punishment.

[KiwiKiller[QQ]]

Locked until review to prevent further spam.

All relevant information for the ban request seems to be here. If you have anything (relevant) to add, you can send me a private message.

[KiwiKiller[QQ]]

After review:

Early warrior send was aborted due to blue being 1/0 and red pushing 2/1. Unfortunately, teal sent 1 warrior already. Red forced to continue the send with 1 second remaining. This call was terrible, indeed, but it was not game ruining.

(01:42 / All) El_Sexta_Espada: !votekick 007
(01:42 / All) 007a: A votekick against player [007a] has been started by player [El_Sexta_Espada]. 5 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.
(01:42 / All) 007a: Type !yes to vote.
(01:42 / All) 007a: ** Note: !votekick should only be used to kick players breaking a rule. You should not votekick players new to the game!

@Kaouaille This votekick of you was illegitimate, even though you had good intentions, if someone from this game reports you, you could get banned. Please redefine your definition of game ruining, you can take a look on our web site.

Then, on level 3 player El_Sexta_Espada sends, alone, a bowman, but he needed it. He sends 2 more bowmen on level 5, which might have been a failed math? I don't know.
All in all, every votekicks from this point against player El_Sexta_Espada are illegitimate and abusive.
Player 007a initiated 1 votekick and voted in 1 other votekick.
Player al3azme voted in 2 votekicks.
Player barabulika initiated 2 votekicks and participated in 2 other votekicks.
Player OmfgAsmurf- initiated 1 votekick and voted in 2 other votekicks.
Player 51.ayer participated in 1 votekick after being pushed by his peers to do so.

Player 007a is banned 4 days for votekick abuse.
Player al3azme is banned 2 days for votekick abuse.
Player barabulika is banned 5 days for votekick abuse.
Player OmfgAsmurf- is banned 5 days for votekick abuse.
Player 51.ayer is banned 12 hours as a warning for votekick abuse.