Less points lost

[IAmLegion]

Hey guys,

I'm sure we've all have had multiple games where there are leavers. As of late, I feel that there have been even more leavers than normally. It might be just bad luck, or it might be a renewed interest in LTD that has done it.

In any case, I remember when playing in dota-league, that they had implemented in their points system, a way to reduce the ammount of points lost for a team with 1 or more leavers. My brain is on half working modus right now, but I'll try to keep it simple.

Team A has a leaver, if they win, they get more elo than they would have if they were 4v4. If they lose, they lose less elo than they would have if they were 4v4. Team B loses and gets punished harder than they normally would, since they are 4v3. Team B wins, they get less elo than they normally would, because they are 4v3.

People will probably complain about "what if they go merc 3v4". Sure, but the scripts should be able to record this and transcript it into play? In any case, if this was possible, it would be great. Since you will always have teams that have a leaver, and the opposing team saving for 10 rounds to beat them on 17 or 20..

This is just an idea, but I'm sure a great many people would appreciate not getting punished for having a leaver on their team, but instead rewarded if they manage to win against all odds.

[iightfyre]

The way the ELO is distributed now is in response to a flaw where the wrong team would get boosted ELO in the case of a leaver. I think the way that it calculates ELO right now is the best work-around to make it as fair as possible. Before, a leaver would be flagged as a loser no matter what and it caused the ELO to fluctuate in the wrong direction. Now , a leaver is flagged on his starting team win or loss. This essentially locks the ELO w/l at the start of a game. Not sure if there realistically is a better solution but this would be a question for uakf.b.

Appreciate your suggestion - it would make more sense the way you suggested if it were possible!

[Feor]

the elo +/- reward is based on average elo of each team if I have understood correctly.

You could instead make it calculate the total elo of each team, eg if a team has a leaver it's total elo is reduced, therefore the points the team will lose are less. ( can give a more detailed example at some other time if I am not understood )

[IAmLegion]

the elo +/- reward is based on average elo of each team if I have understood correctly.

You could instead make it calculate the total elo of each team, eg if a team has a leaver it's total elo is reduced, therefore the points the team will lose are less. ( can give a more detailed example at some other time if I am not understood )

Imo, this sounds like a very good solution to the problem. I know Nordic League used the same calculations for their bots when they were up and running