Ban Appeal 2 for FROFF'ing, please read

[Londy]

Your Warcraft III username: Londy
Realm/Gateway: U.S. East
Why are you banned: Froff'ing
Why you should be unbanned: I think you guys are focusing on something so miniscule. First of all, the rules and bans are set in place to improve the Enterprise community. I was initially banned for "game ruining", but when I made my decision, I had only good intentions of helping the titan and improving the state of the game. If the titan had not received that -froff, he would have been killed in the near future by our demo's and tauren(s).I did what I thought was reasonable at the time, since it looked like the titan was going nowhere. If the titan ended up slaughtering everyone in the game, then I think a ban would make sense. However, there was no major consequence for the choice I made. Secondly, as I already said, I apologized to M1nus later in the game. I did laugh initially when he said I would be banned, because it seemed like a pretty ridiculous reason considering the circumstances. I avoided any further conflict with him, EVEN WHEN he continually blamed me throughout the game instead of focusing on the demonologist who was intentionally feeding. M1nus then proceeded to stand right next to the titan when his base was sieged, and consequentially died. Lastly, concerning the rules, you guys are constantly reverting to me lying about reading the rules instead of responding to any of the pieces of evidence I put forth. I am aware of most of the basic rules, like intentionally feeding and leaving, but never once was I aware that I had to have at least 60% consent from the group of builders to enable FROFF. The 500 games you see on my IP are a combination of different accounts not owned by me, but of my family members (brothers) who have the same IP address. Londy is the only account I use. The main reason why I want the ban off this weekend is because they came down from university this weekend and we are unable to play any ID or [Ent] games in general because of this ban. Therefore, If you are only able to defend your case by denying that I haven't read the rules and by referring to me "laughing" at M1nus, then leave the ban. If you understand my point of view, I hope you can take it into consideration. I only want to play ID to have a good time, and not to ruin the game for others. I guarantee that I will no longer cause any unnecessary problems, now that I have learned this important rule. Thanks for reading.

[Virulence]

Your ban expires in 50 hours.

[Merex]

think you guys are focusing on something so miniscule. First of all, the rules and bans are set in place to improve the Enterprise community. I was initially banned for "game ruining", but when I made my decision, I had only good intentions of helping the titan and improving the state of the game.

If the titan had not received that -froff, he would have been killed in the near future by our demo's and tauren(s).

You answered yourself. Island defense isn't a balancing game. There is 1 goal for defenders; Defeat the titan. There is 1 goal for the titan; Defeat the builders. Also, Helping the titan? What happened to teaching? Since when is -froff an acceptable process of teaching a newly titan on the game? It's like showing him mercy more than anything.
(11:02 / All) Londy: you really think we will lose because of that froff ?
(11:06 / Allied) M1Nus: red
(11:11 / Allied) M1Nus: just follow rules it'snot hard
Again, as stated you are sounding more defensive than concerned or ''apologetic'' for your actions. I'd also like to point out your sorry later in the game is about 7 minutes later from what M1nus was telling you.
(11:14 / Allied) M1Nus: just like real world
(11:16 / Allied) M1Nus: there is laws
(11:18 / Allied) M1Nus: you don't break em
(18:48 / Allied) Londy: sorry man
Now I understand this situation isn't as severe compared to other cases but it's still a rule broken given that you ignored the voting and went with your own instinct. Island defense consists of 10** defenders, not 1. It is a team game and just like any other team they will have a say in things too.

[Londy]

Island defense isn't a balancing game? Then why do -froff and -exp and -gc exist? And I didn't randomly -froff the titan, 3 or 4 people mentioned it and I agreed to do it. I know that I didn't have to majority of votes, but I am still falling back on the excuse that I was unaware of those rules. Can you give me in one sentence the complete reason why the Ent community is improved because of my ban?

[aRt)Y]

@Londy I've difficulties seeing you feel guilty for what you've done. You show a rather "offensive" response/stance to get unbanned rather than accepting it. You may correct me on that.

I will quote myself from a similar topic:

You've a very narrowed view on that case.

To make some things clear:

• You can pause at any time to start a voting.
• Whether the game would be ruined or not is not decided by you but by the majority.
• Some people (also the mods' view) dont like wasting their time playing versus a titan (who as you said already lost the game) and then even with froff and exp which further delays the game.

Do always start a voting. It is not up to you to decide if the game is over, ruined or whatsoever.

Please link me the general and ID specific rules and acknowledge your wrongdoing seeing it from a moderator's perspective and I will consider the ban removal.

[Londy]

Ok sounds good. I do realize I made a mistake, but didn't realize I needed that specific majority. I am not trying to sound offensive, but I think that (other than unintentionally breaking the rule) what I did is reasonable, and can argued. In all, I do see the wrongdoing from a moderator's perspective.

ID Rules:
• Player enables game modes -gc, froff, -exp/dxp without 60% of the other players' consensus.

[aRt)Y]

Considering this is your first offense with a voting rule, approved.

@Londy Keep in mind tho: The game is not about what you think but what the majority thinks. ENT is not gonna hesitate to enforce punishment for those who think being red gives them the power to ignore other players' opinions.