[DOTA] [LOD] Rangementalhack@useast - mh

[Malicious]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=5705877
Game Name: [ENT] DotA LoD -sdems6bod2 #73
Your Warcraft III Username: Betterthanyou@entconnect
Violator's Warcraft III Username: ragementalhack@useast
Violated Rule(s): Maphacking
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
>4:50 - (Questionable) Teleports to reg rune to replenish depleted hp/mp
>11:00 - Blind fissure
>16:00 - (Questionable) gank in Sent forest
>16:30 - Teleports to Furion's location for gank without any prior vision
>17:45 - Drops detection ward to destroy ours
>19:26 - Fishing for purp while dodging our wards
>21:07 - Drops another detection ward to destroy ours
>30:50 - Drops detection ward as clintz in ww approaches
Any further thoughts: I found it highly strange how he managed to avoid/find our detection wards throughout the game. His ward detection placements seemed too clean. He's trying to be very subtle about it but made some obvious mistakes such as misjudging the fog vision and dodging/detecting wards. I may be presumptuous but I'd like someone to review this carefully.

[Jiminy_Cricket]

@malicious

No he dont mh. 930 replay time he went for the run after the other team had already taken it. The 1630 incident was the only one that made me go "how the fk!?" But one incident can be seen as luck. So there you have it. Not enough evidence to convict.

450 (game time) rune spawns often and its easy to know when they there. Just got lucky with reg.
1102 he fissures akasha and catches techies with it. Only suspicious cause he caught techies with it too. Akasha was seen 1 second before headed that way.

1600 normal gank
1630 this was very suspicious to me. Why waste your port unless you knew something was there? Why not gank chakk who was the only visible hero on the map.
1745. He was warding normally.
1926 not sure what you mean. Everything looked normal to me.
2107 arc dropped the ward, not pink

3045 he targets the image -another sign he dont hack.
3050 normal protective warding. He knew clinks invis being clinks and he knew he was just spotted so they would be heading that way. he warded by a visible hero to counter gank.

[Malicious]

There seemed to be a lot of these 'luck' instances with him. I'm aware of the timer set on rune respawns but I found it highly suspicious that after depleting his mana and health he'd teleport to an unconfirmed rune (and risk being defenceless) rather than base.
11:02 - I may have missed it but when I was following the accused hero, he didn't have vision on akasha/techie as it was also limited during night. He had seen akasha but lost sight of her and wouldn't have known which direction she would have taken (questionable). I'd like another opinion.
16:30 - This seemed way too lucky. No vision whatsoever on a low-critical Furion who was merely farming and returning to base yet he intercepted.
17:45 - Maybe. Dropping an obs ward is understandable. It was an awkward spot for our team to place an obs+detection ward there in the first place, which he unhesitatingly destroyed with his own detection ward. I mean he carries those around for quite some time and only drops it at the most convenient locations and times.
19:26 - He waited there (fishing) for purple as he approached from forest to base. Strange how he would just simply stand in locations rather than just probe our forest. We also had a detection ward near there which I'm arguing why he was so static. He constantly stays out of range of our detection wards or counters them.
30:45 - I'm not aware that images can be differentiated with maphack however I would maintain that he would have done so for a variety of reasons.

To me, it seemed like he was trying very hard to be subtle about it. Given his build, it would be fairly difficult to catch him (perm invis aoe caster) as he'd be able to avoid fog clicks. I'd like a second opinion from an experienced admin.

[Jiminy_Cricket]

@malicious

Watch a different replay of his. I've done this before and found blatant mh incidents. I've always found similar games like the one you posted where it smells like mh but youre just shy of the evidence to convict. Hard sometimes to catch em! Good work though. Glad someone else is taking the time to make a thorough report.

[AnotherWorld]

Ok,
To me it's clear MH for following analysis :

16 min :




He does teleport in the wind into specific tower side location, dangerous place to go from nowhere, without any ward just, just close to one furion.
It's too obivous on that spot. When you can't see the whole enemy map side, you can't teleport lottery on that place. If there is no one, then it's not even a place to put wards & he didn't get any on that moment.
=> Clear MH for me.

17 min :

Here again a teleport in the wind without any ward, but again on a special location... near techies... :

To me again, that's not an accident, but MH.He places a ward after his teleport.

17 min :

He teleports on that place where they got a ward, he places a sentry down enemy's sentry. Why is that really strange? Because first of all they got one ward & secondly to me, his sentry is wrongly placed, he throws it down just to spot & kill the enemy's one. to me also it's a clear MH.

18 min :

To me here, it's an obvious MH because i've replayed several times 1/2x those moments. He does clearly spell in the shadow. No vision, no wards, nothing, & you can't spell wrongly in the wind & OH accidentally KILLED someone... xD


20 min :




Finally, & to me doesn't need to go more, but he does go down in the shadow between two sentinels, while actions is up. & spell two times in the wind & AGAIN accidentally killed someone... too many "accidentals" shadowed moves, it can't be blinds one, that's evident MH to me.

I'll ask another admin to !approve that MH.
Thank you

[Jiminy_Cricket]

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Now you got me watchin' it again

20 secs game time he went for the run after the other team had already taken it. All he could see what that his allies didnt go for the rune so he went to the other rune to see if bounty was still there -Some evidence he does not hack? I dont know why he went down to that rune. This threw me off and the fact that malicious didnt report the 1857 incident.

714 he was farmin away to get his level 8 but backs (before map vision) when two come to gank him. Could just be good sense though.

1630 again is the crazy lucky or mh incident. Not a dangerous spot to go though since hes got perma invis @anotherworld .

1715 hes warding normally. Anotherworld this is normal in Lod. Very common spot to ward. Techies was visible after he dropped obs ward on tower and its normal to throw sentry down below to catch both wards on tower and invis heroes that go through there.

1740 is again normal warding in lod. Hes got the obs in the right spot for good vision and the sent in the right spot to catch both wards and invis heroes.

1857 he fissures techies and akaska. Crazy to me he would catch them both, even more crazy he would torrent exactly on techies. Yeah to me thats either crazy lucky or mh. Very weird malicious didnt report this time stamp. This stamp along with the 1630 makes me lean toward hes a mher.

20 mins he dusted techies but it makes sense since techies ww and his torrent missed. He didnt accidentally kill techies since he dusted.

2420 legit fc on teal and this mofo is done.

@malicious got him. good call! @anotherworld thanks for finding that 1857 incident. That made me watch the replay like 4 more times lol. @F-train dat weird name change do. And the fact that I asked his new name why the new account. His reply was "stats wipe." lel

[Malicious]

Thanks for taking the time to extensively examine this Another/Jiminy. It was frustrating going over this replay twice because he was so subtle about it. I've probably missed a few instances (I wish there was a playback command for these replay recordings). I know this was quite time-consuming for you guys so thanks a bunch. One less maphacker off ENT.

[AnotherWorld]

BTW i didn't ban him yet, i'm waiting for another mod pro review because it's tricky one this guy is PRO Maphacker or he should play loto...

[Hatedmaru]

@AnotherWorld @Malicious No need to delay it further

[43852] 33:10 ragementalhack 0x19: Select subgroup [Goblin Techies, object=0x0003FDC90000600C]

@Jiminy_Cricket Good catch on that click, legit fogclick

Banning ragementalhack@useast.battle.net for 1 year

Thanks for reporting/inputs

Moving for confirmation

[AnotherWorld]

I had noticed it also but was focusing on all my previous screen analyses i'm happy we were right Thank you Gaara

[Stealer]

Dodged.