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king-qu33fer useast

Postby wsupthen » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:05 am

Your battle.net username: EGEL
Violator's battle.net username: king-qu33fer us east
Game name (if known): [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #92
Bot name (for example, ENT15): i believe it's ent11
Approximate date/time of game (alternatively, link to a Stats page): http://clanent.net/findstats.php?id=735277
Rule player violated: MH
Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer): 7:03 Replay Time
Any further thoughts: He fog clicks on the side shops bottom

He also accused me of mhing because i have a fog click detector. Since I mainly play on dotacash, where fog click detectors are allowed, i use it. Ummm, if you guys want me to link you to the detector, I can. It's an updated version of the older one and it is made by one of the DotaCash Admins.

king-qu33fer said that fog click detectors aren't allowed, but i know i've seen an admin use it in-game. I can go into more detail if need be.

input is appreciated.

E: http://dotaparser.net/replay/25485

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Re: king-qu33fer useast

Postby m4dnix » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:03 am

Hello there. I used to play a couple of games with this guy you reported, i suspected him of MH. I will take a look at this one. Btw, can you please provide us the name of that admin for whom you claim that he is using fog-detector ingame, since even admins cant use it ingame, rules are same for everyone. Also, i am asking you to stop using fog-detector at ENT games, otherwise, we will have to get you out of our games, i hope you understand that this is ENT and not Dotacash, therefore, we have our own rules, and we do not allow any third-party programs that could give advantage to any player.


Sinceraly, m4dnix.
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Re: king-qu33fer useast

Postby Bubblestorms » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:12 am

Actually I think a warning will suffice, since it's his first offense of using a fog clicker, but in the future only use it in replays to check if some one is hacking.

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Re: king-qu33fer useast

Postby wsupthen » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:27 am

alright, i'll remove it from my wc3 folder.

i don't want to name names with out providing the proof. i'll look through my game history on my other account and find the game where he says that someone is fog clicking.

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Re: king-qu33fer useast

Postby m4dnix » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:38 am

Ok, thanks for understanding.. and about the name, that would be nice, anyways, i am going to watch this replay now, i will get back to you soon.

Edit: I've just reviewed it, idk what to say, its a little bit suspicious, he had no sight at all, but there is only one second questionable... it could be delayed fog click due to high ping or something, i am not really sure about this one, i will need some assistence here from my colleagues, for now, i am not banning the guy, need my colleagues to take a look at it and give me their opinion, i wont rush it. But i will for sure go now and download his other replays, i need to find out what is wrong there.

Ouch.. took me a while to catch him, i watched like 3 replays.. he is very smart and very carefull. I watched 1x speed like one hour in total... really made me feel sick, but finally i got him. All that effort paid off after all. This guy had so many suspicios clicks... that i was thinking they are all delayed, but the one i found last wasnt delayed, its a pure maphack.
I am going to ban this guy, but i will wait another confirmation from my colleagues, but i think this is it.

http://s5.clanent.net/replay/view_repla ... 735160.w3g - This is the game that i watched on 1x speed from 0 to the moment i caught him, but i watched it twice, because i had to quit and watch one more time for a suspicios secret shop click..

Fog clicks:

29:00 - secret shop click (he sent a courir from base to the secret shop, i was watching that area, he had no vision, and he clicked it like 1-2 seconds before courir arrived there, i said, ok, could be delayed, lets go forward...


33:36 - fog click on troll (right here, he selected a troll in WW, but aswell, coulda have been delayed, because there is only one or two second questionable about his click.. thats tricky, hes fast.)

34:20 - fog click void (this one is the one that we need, void was coming top with creeps, i checked, this guy had no vision, but yet he selected him, that was the moment i quitted watching, because its was already too obvious what is this about, and i have to mention his suspicios playing during the whole game and awareness of whereabouts and being ganked, he knew exactly everything)

I am banning now the guy, but still awaiting another admin confirmation untill it can be moved to the processed ban requests. Also i would like to thank you for this report, i had this guy in mind, but back in times, i totally forgot to review these replays, but i am glad that you did it for me. Cheers.

EDIT: Times are from (Replay time) not In-Game.

EDIT 2:

29:0 |cFF00FFFFKing-Qu33fer (Axe)|r clicked Leragas The Vile
33:36 |cFF00FFFFKing-Qu33fer (Axe)|r clicked Troll Warlord
34:20 |cFF00FFFFKing-Qu33fer (Axe)|r clicked Faceless Void
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Re: king-qu33fer useast

Postby Bubblestorms » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:59 am

I can't find any of the fog clicks you mentioned, and the game ends in replay at 28:29, so I don't really understand any of it.

Nevermind it was another reply


29:0 |cFF00FFFFKing-Qu33fer (Axe)|r clicked Leragas The Vile
33:36 |cFF00FFFFKing-Qu33fer (Axe)|r clicked Troll Warlord
34:20 |cFF00FFFFKing-Qu33fer (Axe)|r clicked Faceless Void

Fog clicks confirmed.

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Re: king-qu33fer useast

Postby m4dnix » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:02 pm

http://s5.clanent.net/replay/view_repla ... 735160.w3g

This one? This is not the game this guy reported, i couldnt find much in the first one this guy gave us, so i took some others and watched them by myself.. this is one i am talking about, from this link above.
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