[DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

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[DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby Steelpanther » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:11 am

Replay Link:http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/view_replay.php?file=8302155.w3g
Game Name:[ENT] DotA arem us/ca #97
Your Warcraft III Username:Steelpanther
Violator's Warcraft III Username:necromancer
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Time of Violation (in-game or replay): From 10.33 mn to 11.40 he hunt ursa in forest without vision
14mn: he dodge perfectly Rylai wihout vison
Start at 17m30 he hunt use spell without vison and follow venge(he was invisble) to kill him:

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby PwnLikeMe » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:22 am

I have also suspected him of maphacking, but it is really hard to prove

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby Necromancer22 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:50 am

Necromancer here.

I will admit that the first two sticky napalms on venge were lucky in that fight, it was a lucky play for sure, but beyond that everything in that game that i did was very obvious to a competent batrider.

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby Necromancer22 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:54 am

i am new to the ent bot, although i have played dota for many years. If any more explanation is needed from admin in regards to my gameplay i can provide it.

Have a good day

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby Steelpanther » Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:47 pm

Just watch from replay mode at 10.33mn to 11.40 with usra in wood, with fog off and after with fog on their nothing more to say.

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby Larz » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:40 am

at 10.33 to 11.14 the dance bat did to hunt ursa is highly suspicious. just about confirms map hack in itself
at 14 min he casts and blinks away from Rylai without vision even stay out of vision he runs into trees on the left side of bottom tower.
at 17 min in bat follows invisible veng and casts aoe spells on him.
Banning Necromancer 1 year for map hack

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby Necromancer22 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:51 am

This is ridiculous I dont hack....

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby Necromancer22 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:57 am

I am going to guess that you are a very average dota player to deem this as map hack, and I would like an admin that is of higher skill level to review this replay. You don`t think its possible to get lucky in a game rofl. And the one at 14 min is obvious, they just roshed, obviously if i am pushed at bottom I am going to run back in a safe manner rather than straight up the lane. How do u not comprehend that.

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby humptydumpty » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:30 am

Having played two to three dozen games with necromancer on this and other aliases, I can say with high certainty he does not hack. Not only that, but he's a stand up dude who treats others with respect (something we could use a little more of in the ENT community).

I watched the replay. And, yes, like Necro pointed out, some of these casts were very lucky guesses in hindsight. However, I'd urge the admins to consider that good players have an intuition that makes these events more likely to happen. And, we should at least give SOME room for luckiness. If we don't, we're basically making a commitment to ban the best players on ENT (over time, every one of them will have a track record of one or two unbelievably lucky games).

Again, I'm unrelated to Necro and I do not know him IRL. I've simply befriended him on BNet and have played with him in a lot of games -- none of which I've seen any sign of him maphacking. I urge you all to reconsider. If we all want to continue enjoying Dota, we need to preserve the good in our community.

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby divinerape » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:53 am

*I don't know and never have played with necromancer*

That being said, I can't help but feel that a mistake has been made here and kindly request someone to look deeper into this.

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby Necromancer22 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:13 am

I apologize for my earlier post larz. I am going to walk you through the rylai situation(albeit this is without having gone back to the replay)I am pushed past the river in bottom lane with multiple enemy heros mia. This is considered risky. I believe it can be confirmed that rosh was killed by the enemy team. I then turned back and was worried that they were coming to gank me, as why wouldnt they?? I am an obvious lone target who is carrying the opposing team. It is a natural assumption that if they are good players they will come to gank me. The whole reason that i am pushed this far alone is that i am confident that i can escape with blink and firewAlking in the trees on the rigbt side. Now, since i believe that they would be smart to gank me after roshing NEARBY, i began to retreat. Most players would probably just run up straight , but I ask you this, why would I ever risk that when it is just as easy for me to use my item and my spell to evade any possible gank??? It is only logical. I promise you that i can also answer the other two occasions with my complete reasoning behind why i did what i did if I were to watch the replay, but I see that as being unneccessary...

I think that HumptyDumpty sums it up quite well in regards to My lucky play with venge. If you really cared about determining whether I maphack would it not be a good idea to review more of my games ?? I have not had any other games with false claims of maphacking for good reason...

And thanks to you two backing me up! Its been fun playing with you guys!

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby Necromancer22 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:29 am

Also Divinerape did you view the replay? I am wondering if you agree with HumptyDumptys very valid points.

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby divinerape » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:58 am

Necromancer22 wrote:Also Divinerape did you view the replay? I am wondering if you agree with HumptyDumptys very valid points.


I have not had the chance to, as it is 6am here, but I promise I will as soon as I wake up. Although I already have a clue as to what I will see *just to clarify what I mean... I will see a good player who doesn't maphack*

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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby OBEY » Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:08 am

He doesn't know him, didnt play with him, didnt watch replay why do you say admins make mistake? Im sure admins can make mistake but from what you've said ur just saying things out without any knowledge .
Also best way is admins to just look at few other replay in my opinion.
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Re: [DOTA] Dota - necromancer@useast.battle.net Maphacker

Postby divinerape » Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:51 pm

OBEY wrote:He doesn't know him, didnt play with him, didnt watch replay why do you say admins make mistake? Im sure admins can make mistake but from what you've said ur just saying things out without any knowledge .
Also best way is admins to just look at few other replay in my opinion.


That's correct. And everything I've said is true. I may not know him, but I know people, and I know when people are being honest, and not...
And what, may I ask, is the reason for YOUR post?


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