[DOTA] ty-@useast.battle.net

[Wassabie]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/replay.php?id=8482053
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #10
Your Warcraft III Username: wassabie@useast.battle.net
Violator's Warcraft III Username: ty-@useast.battle.net
Violated Rule(s): He maphacked. He knew the location of all wards. One of this teammates agreed and told me in next game. fjcruiser@useast.battle.net in [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #30 https://entgaming.net/replay.php?id=8482146
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): all thru game
Any further thoughts:

[Arii]

@Wassabie
If you want to report a player for maphack, you must provide timestamps of where the maphack is evident. "All thru game" doesn't help us when reviewing

[Nat]

To me, it looks like he is just a very good DotA player. His plays definitely show he has a lot of experience in the game. The only sketchy part I noticed so far was at 20:00 where he seems to chase sb perfectly, without any vision.

Each obs ward he found didn't seem too suspicious. Looks to me like he judged where they were ish by thinking about where you rallied for a gank, and also areas that are most common.

Don't hold me to this, it was a quick review and I am tired and worn out. I will look again into this tomorrow but I also have my friend @hash on the case.

[Hash]

5:35 Bane goes out of vision, slark goes straight to the right where bane was. Seems a little bit suspicious.

(12:28 / Allied) Ty-: both of them are stuck
Now right before ty- said this, spec had just jumped into the cliff area where slark was, so it was apparent that spec was stuck in the cliffs. And because of slark's ward, it gave him vision of bara charging towards him, because he never actually saw bara getting stuck, it is a bit suspicious that slark knew that BOTH of them were stuck there.

13:50 Slark sent his 2 clones to scout, both clones run into enemy units, but the way one of his clones found purple at 13:55 seemed a little bit suspicious.

16:34 Slark finds bane at the goblin merch/lab. Pretty suspicious again.

(19:03 / Allied) Ty-: ward
(19:09 / Allied) Ty-: right here
19:08 Slark pings where the ward is, pretty suspicious that he would know there was a ward there.

19:40 there is vision of bara for a split second from the creeps. So slark pings him.
19:50 bara is seen going from forest to river with their sentry ward. So this play doesn't seem too suspicious to me compared to some other plays.

22:00 Pings where another ward is. Is a common place for wards, but is a little bit suspicious.

26:37 Slark is headed south towards the bottom enemy tower, then all of a sudden doubles back going north, as if he knew moon rider was waiting there. Slark starts to move back north like a second or two before MR comes into vision. It is weird that slark would go back north, considering that all four of his team-mates are pushing the bottom tower. Seems pretty suspicious.

27:57 Slark pings another ward, again it is a common place for wards, but still kind of suspicious.

28:55 The spot where slark killed the last ward at 27:57, slark puts a sentry there to kill another enemy obs ward is if he knew it was there. Kind of suspicious again.

32:30 Slark finds bara in the woods, a bit suspicious here.

35:15 Pinged another ward, kind of suspicious

39:25 Slark pinged another ward, a little bit suspicious again.

Now after reviewing this replay, to me it seems pretty hard to determine if this guy map-hacks or not, most of the suspicion came from the fact he knew where all the obs wards were. Although most of the wards were in common places, it just seems fishy that he knew spot on where these wards were. My impression after watching this replay is that I do think he map-hacks but I am not entirely sure if he does or not. I would like to get a Dota ENT mod to review this, and see how they feel about him. If they think he is suspicious enough but this isn't enough evidence for a one year map-hack ban, I don't mind going through some of his other replays. But if they say he is just a skilled player with a good sense of map awareness and instinct, I wouldn't be surprised either.

[Hatedmaru]

Havent watched the replay, but just a sidenote regarding the hero, Slark:

Slark ulti (Shadow Dance) allows him to move faster and regenerate hp faster, when hes out of enemy sight -> meaning if theres an inv hero next to him, wards nearby or so, the effect from his ulti stops, allowing him to know this type of information.

So if he walks through common ward areas, and his ulti goes off, its understandable that he claims/pings the ward spot (regarding the mentioned timestamps about the pings/wards)

[Wassabie]

@arii
Please review all the info above.
I think he maphacked.

[Wassabie]

@fjcruiser
Please review and can you say something about this?

[BeerLord]

As explained by hyo, slark has an ability that allows him to detect wards. There is an icon in his status bar that disappears when someone or something (hero ward or creep) has vision of him. So slark finding wards is not evidence for maphack. Having said that, I watched this game and one other, and find no other evidence for maphack based on game play/non ward related issues either.
Denied.
@wassabie pm me if any questions