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i have seen the error in our ways

Postby kasper699 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:46 pm

Your Warcraft III username: bumpimp
Realm/Gateway: us west
Why are you banned: !ff abuse
Why you should be unbanned or shortened ban from 5 days: i am sorry that we abused the !ff, this will not happen again i am sorry that my actions allowed tktrenloe and charnel to have a free win. and it would affect the game play. this will not happen again and i will let others aware that is is not aloud in the future. do not FF when the game is not lost 100%. if there is a chance to win play the game becsaue the other team might be having fun winning or the 4th person on your team

http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?tit ... ming:Rules
Any form of votekick and !ff abuse

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby MungoLake » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:46 pm

Granted we are banned for the same thing and Kasper699 and i both are on the same page. I am sorry for the FF abuse and now have some understanding of when it can not be used as their is very little reports in regards to this sought of an issue. I am also requesting an unban in this message.

Thanks,

MungoLake

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby blazeitup » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:59 pm

Uh? Since when wasn't it allowed to ff if you actually want to surrender? I thought ff abuse was when you go with 4 friends into a game and just ff giving free wins/elo to the opponents on purpose. Maybe I need to go brush up on the rules.

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby Sylvanas » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:47 pm

weak

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby blazeitup » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:01 am

Can you be so kind and link the banrequest and/or replay link on the game? I'd love to see it to learn more so I don't get banned for the same thing.

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby MungoLake » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:05 am


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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:19 am

It's interesting that the Charnel person who clearly is trying to lose games (as shown by the ban request, he is upset about winning a game) is still playing and losing. Up to 36 now.

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby MungoLake » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:34 am

Crazy when you think their are 2 ban requests against him that haven't been processed. One has been sitting around for 2 weeks now... and i wouldn't be surprised if Sylvanas is actually him. His other account is persephone which has a record of 1-64.

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:42 am

Sylvanas is clearly on your side. Why are you saying he's the ruiner?
The only person that could be bothered by this turn of events, a repeat game thrower, considered that his game throwing was harmed by it, so a ban request was made. That was the critical moment, the key element that caused things to unfold the way they did: a game thrower was angry at what had happened, because it made the game throwing business a tiny bit more difficult for him and we can't have that now, can we?

Turn on your sarcasm detector.

Seriously though: why is the fact that a few players FF'd to break a gamethrower's losing streak getting so much more attention than the fact that this user has thrown over 100 games?
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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby Sylvanas » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:45 am

lol, what the hell? I'm a game throwing ltd player now? Just... how did you come to that conclusion?

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby MungoLake » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:48 am

Sorry i meant zawadax3. Apologies Sylvanas

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:48 am

@MungoLake by the way, go make your own appeal, they only consider appeals for the opening poster usually.

And yes zawadax3 clearly is the thrower. He actually directly stated this in the thread. Amusing that a gamethrower is confident enough to make his own ENT account and start reporting others. Heh.
Your Warcraft III Username: Charnel

My gosh. This entire thing is a trainwreck.

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby Sylvanas » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:51 am

MungoLake wrote:Sorry i meant zawadax3. Apologies Sylvanas

zawada is effectively the thrower you forfeited against and who reported you for being a nuisance to his mass throwing of games. He stated his wc3 account name in his ban request. It's not secret information.

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby MungoLake » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:53 am

I got the names mixed up. Sorry Sylvanas. I made a seperate unban request as you mentioned EdgeOfChaos

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Re: i have seen the error in our ways

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:09 am

Let's state the facts again for anyone who needs to catch up:

- A user ruins games, aiming for the largest losing spree possible or lowest ELO possible
- Enemy team realizes this, all four decide to forfeit to give him a win for fun
- The game ruiner who has an ENT account and is making no effort to hide his game ruining activity, posts a ban request
- The users who FF are banned for 5 days, the average duration of a game ruiner ban
- The person who has ruined 100+ games is completely ignored and is STILL throwing games.

My god. Well I guess "rules are rules" right? This is a pathetic display of lack of judgment, not to mention giving a blank check to the ruiner to aim for his low ELO account. What are you telling people? The mods will help you make your low ELO account, just report people for messing it up and they'll get banned before the ruiner does! Come on, use a little bit of common sense in applying rules and look at the impact of violation. What was the impact of this 'ff abuse'? A gameruiner having a harder time ruining games, that's it.

You should be ashamed @AmnoN
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