Some one crashed game

[lex-]

I feel something wasn't right because we already rax their base and after that got crashed. Must be some one cheated and ruined.
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12257374

[Linflas]

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[iambackk]

I don't know where you see a game desync, they just left thinking they ff, the game is won actually if you wait 15 second

(31:17 / All) NubiDubi: The other team has left. If you stay for fifteen seconds, the game will be marked as your win.

[h3rmit]

I feel something wasn't right because we already rax their base and after that got crashed. Must be some one cheated and ruined.
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12257374

When you say "crashed", what exactly did you experience? Did Warcraft III close completely? Did you see a "Fatal Error" window or a "Submit Error Report" form?

Or were you just forcibly disconnected from the game ("You were disconnected" in-game window)?

"Crash" usually refers to WC3 shutting down completely and without warning.

[RichardCoffee]

This wasn't a game crash.

just an unfortunate coincidence of everyone leaving thinking they won.

[lex-]

I didn't quit game but It shown disconnected.

[EdteOfChaos2]

(31:15 / All) WolfOfVesterbro: WolfOfVesterbro has left the game voluntarily.
(31:15 / All) NubiDubi: crybaby.cry has left the game voluntarily.
(31:15 / All) NubiDubi: Computer_easy has left the game voluntarily.
(31:17 / All) NubiDubi: hidan has left the game voluntarily.
(31:17 / All) NubiDubi: The other team has left. If you stay for fifteen seconds, the game will be marked as your win.
(31:23 / All) NubiDubi: ibmehaetrs has left the game voluntarily.
(31:24 / All) NubiDubi: wayy has left the game voluntarily.
(31:26 / All) NubiDubi: good/bad has left the game voluntarily.
(31:26 / All) NubiDubi: did dhty ff?
(31:27 / All) NubiDubi: Iegabichon has left the game voluntarily.
(31:33 / All) NubiDubi: NubiDubi has left the game voluntarily

No there IS something strange here. I think it's unlikely 3 people left at the exact same second, but also seems like at the very least, NubiDubi didn't get forced out of the game..

[iambackk]

if it was the winning team who sudenly all leaving, okey i would maybe think this is strange, but here, it's the loosing team who sudenly have all players leaving the game so their is no reason to someone to make the game crash for the loosing team.

[Astros]

I've seen this shit happen before. Not sure what the issue is but it seems to be random and rare.

I don't think anything malicious happened here. Just unfortunate it happened if you care about the ELO I guess.

Also, what does the wait 15 seconds even mean? Does everyone on the team have to wait 15 seconds or the game isn't counted? Seems absurd. I don't think that played a role. In HHTD, players leave before that 15 seconds is up and the game is still counted.

My inclination is it has something to do with the bot disconnecting and then not recording the game results. Sometimes the WC3Connect client shows an error when clicking it and this is probably the result of that with bad timing.

[lex-]

I don't care about the elo...but I feel like spec can use dagger to get off the map, and I got disconnected after. Good/bad is absolutely ruined this game also. It's a game I don't really care just move on.

[Frank]

I don't care about the elo...but I feel like spec can use dagger to get off the map, and I got disconnected after. Good/bad is absolutely ruined this game also. It's a game I don't really care just move on.

crashing maps with pl used to be ur specialty.. don't think i forgot.. lose game then crash for a draw at the end.. albeit this used to be years ago i still dont buy your whole new persona

[lex-]

I never crash game with pl, you are not a joke right? Check my history again.

[h3rmit]

I didn't quit game but It shown disconnected.

I've seen this shit happen before. Not sure what the issue is but it seems to be random and rare.

Warcraft III disconnects the local player from the bot voluntarily whenever it receives a network action it considers to be invalid, forged or a cheating attempt.

Let me give an example. At some point, I developed an experimental bot feature: To make disconnected players walk back to their fountain, like in LoL. There was no lag screen in the community I developed it for, so disconnected players were left still in the battlefield while everyone else kept playing, and they would usually die. So I made the hostbot send an action to everyone, on behalf of the disconnected player, that they clicked to walk back to their fountain.

This actually worked, and you'd see disconnected players and leavers neatly returning to their base... Except for when they reconnected, they would also receive the action done on their behalf, and their local Warcraft would disconnect them voluntarily from the game.

Likewise, Warcraft III will disconnect you from any game it considers to be sending you bad data from the other side of the wire. It even sends an official game exit request to the bot before closing the connection, marking you as a voluntary leaver.

I don't know where you see a game desync, they just left thinking they ff

No there IS something strange here. I think it's unlikely 3 people left at the exact same second

I don't think anything malicious happened here. Just unfortunate it happened if you care about the ELO I guess.

My inclination is it has something to do with the bot disconnecting and then not recording the game results.

The bot disconnecting may be the usual case, yes, but it usually prints something more. For a player to show as a voluntary leaver, it means their Warcraft III sent a game exit request to the bot. Since @lex- claims that he was shown the disconnect message without quitting the game, but the bot marked him as a leaver, then it's a case worth investigating further. There's definitely something going wrong here.

Warcraft III 1.30 seems to have removed some sort of map boundary enforcement. That was the reason of PL crashing.

Let's see the flow:

• Warcraft III receives a network packet.
• It tries to open the packet. [PL would crash here]
• It validates what the packet contains. [lex- was disconnected here]
• It executes the contents of the packet and sends back a checksum of the game state after all actions were applied.
• The bot receives the checksums of all players and compares them. They must always match. [desyncs happen here]

In PL's case WC3 wouldn't make it past opening and decoding the network packet, cause it required more memory space to decode the coordinates than it had reserved. Think of it as having it an extra digit, one digit too many to fit in the available slots.

But we can't rule out the possibility that there are packets that are just outside the map boundaries, that can still fit in memory without causing a crash, and that can make it to the validation stage. While PL's Dopperganger immediately "jumps" to places outside the map boundaries, walking there slowly with Spectre without collision could allow such small marginal cases to exist.

So lex-'s theory of Spectre being able to cause a mass disconnect by using an out-of-bounds Spectral Dagger is plausible.

I can't watch the replay at the moment, but can anyone confirm what actions Spectre and Anti-Mage took right before the mass disconnect? Was any of them near the edges of the map, using Spectral Dagger or Blink?

[Frank]

I never crash game with pl, you are not a joke right? Check my history again.

not trying to start drama and i actually dont have any hard evidence since this happened during a time of 0 moderation from ENT admins so no one bothered to report. Call me a fool/liar w/e i just found it very ironic that you were complaining about crashers.

Why am I so sure you were one of the PL crashers? Cuz i remember specifically your name and coming up with a strategy where I would only kill the throne if the PL hero was dead to prevent crashing

Honestly tho admit to it / dont idgaf im sure someone else remembers aswell.

[lex-]