LoD Map?

[Mossberg]

Howdy,

What happened to the new LoD map? I see ENT has reverted to the old 6..74c. Why is that?

[uakf.b]

Everyone was complaining about the new one.

[Mossberg]

Hi,

Not sure who everyone is or what they were complaining about, but I found zero posts regarding the map change topic. Am I not seeing it? Regarding any such complaints, as far as I know the map is not only stable, but more importantly, current. Please revert back tot he most current map. Change is difficult, but required. Those attached to their old emp haste/bb builds will adapt.

Thanks,
Moss

[uakf.b]

See viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11924

[Mossberg]

So you're telling me the map was reverted to the previous version based on complaints by two players? Surely this is some kind of joke.

You had it right the first time....the map is the map. Let's at least itemize the bugs & issues (with buy-in from the COMMUNITY) before we kill a current map & revert to one 5+ versions (over a year) behind.

[uakf.b]

I posted link so you can reply to link instead of here.

[Mossberg]

I certainly will, but I want to direct feedback to the individual who decided to change the map. That individual needs feedback...badly.

[aRt)Y]

unbalanced
bugged
no point in playing LoD if everything is changed to non-fun builds
senseless removals and changes of spells (???)
and eh ye, bugs

Just ask decent LoD players and/or staff members. Pretty much everyone who I am playing LoD with or who I talked about LoD, agreed that the new version is simply shit.

[Mossberg]

Oh goodness Art, I don't even know where to start with that. I guess I'll address each line item individually. However, i'm fairly certain reason will fall on deaf ears

unbalanced

What is unbalanced with the map? LoD has always been inbalance in balance. You make op heros & have fun. I've seen nothing to suggest the map is inbalanced. Maybe what, spark/multi cast? Welcome to LoD.

bugged

What are the bugs? More bugged than 6.74? Xin/Sleight of Fist | Focus Fire/Zeus Static?

no point in playing LoD if everything is changed to non-fun builds

This really doesn't deserve addressing; it's just silly. If you can't seem to make a fun build with the current map, you should probably move on to another game. Endless possibilities & most importantly, current skill sets/combos!

senseless removals and changes of spells (???)

This is a strange comment as well. What does this mean? Are you referring to empowering haste/ Bezerker's Blood type skill changes? Those changes are reflected in current DotA. LoD has always been based on the heros & skills of the current DotA map - the LoD version has always been a few versions behind. This skill & spell changes are as designed....

Just ask decent LoD players and/or staff members. Pretty much everyone who I am playing LoD with or who I talked about LoD, agreed that the new version is simply shit.

I am certainly a "decent" player (although my elo has recently taken a beating ), & I strongly disagree with this. It sounds like the majority of the complaints are about the skill changes, if that's the case - that's tough. Skills & heros evolve over time. The LoD map creator didn't make these changes...IceFrog did. If you have a problem with them, the concerns should be addressed with IceFrog - they really have nothing to do with the LoD map. Again, just to be clear, LoD has always been based on REG Dota. Change can be difficult, but it is required.

[uakf.b]

Can we keep discussion to the Suggestion topic, instead of here?

[TheDestroyer]

I agree with Moss. How is keeping the map up to date a bad thing? That is what has helped keep Dota fun all these years, UPDATES. This being said from someone who has been playing Dota since 2005.

[uakf.b]

Locking topic, post here if you want to suggest to revert back to old map...