Fangorn - Maphacking

[Fangorn]

Someone unban? Since @agreements can't handle his mistakes. This whole report is an insult, and should be deleted immediately

Edit: I have already thanked Qtrinity for his work, although his work shouldn't have been neccessary. You should send Qtrinity a personal message for all his work on this, agreements

[Fangorn]

Want to be taken serious?

Stop editing my posts. You are proven wrong, and now you are seemingly trying to drag the time. Just unban T.T

[QTriNitY]

Agreements, please take my findings into account. Situation 7 alone proved he was not map hacking.

43:36 - This could be the most suspicious escape from 2 invis capable enemies, NA and Doom.
However, Fangorn balled out 2 times.
1st Ball - At the foot of where Doom was.
2nd Ball - To the Rune spot.
If Fangorn was Hacking, he would have made a longer Ball to escape, instead of 2 times.

And perhaps we should ask ourselves, why did he Balled to check Bottom Rune spot when Haste was situated at Top River?

[QTriNitY]

Agreements, you posted a click which I can prove delayed. And I had proven his delay of 3 secs. Why are you so stubborn when you know and we know this particular click on NA is not ENOUGH for a mh call?

I have done an analysis of his game play and nothing strikes me that he was Map Hacking.

If you truly believe your FCD and DRM against game play analysis to determine a MHer, you are a disappointment. Forget about that Click and focus on his Play Style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSY1be-b ... e=youtu.be

Ask yourself, why did he ball out 2 times at bottom with the 2nd Ball of Lightning scouting for a Rune at Bottom. Haste was at TOP!!!!!

Oh my god, wake up! Put yourself as a mher. In such a situation when you 'can see' enemy heroes approaching from Fog of War out for your blood, why bother Balling 2 times and looking for a Rune which was not there!

[IAmLegion]

Also fangorn, stop the personal shit, unless you want to seem like a guy on a crusade. Qtrinity haven't proved anything yet.

Made me laugh.

Considering your personal history with Fangorn, why are you the one reviewing this?

Remove the ban, have another admin review it. And please don't insult everyone by saying you're a professional that doesn't let emotions get in the way. This is a hunt to remove Fangorn from ENT.

[aRt)Y]

To be honest, you can try as hard as you wish but your reputation concerning maphack and overall is pretty much ruined in the ENT staff.

You've mentioned multiple times to be able to manipulate any maphack case because - as you stated - you yourself are a maphacker.

Your statements hold no special meaning. And who knows that this isn't another 'test'?

@IAmLegion Regardless, if agreements is right or wrong, you should choose your words carefully and show respect. Plus, you should give some arguments about why he isn't maphacking, instead of just saying it.

[Fangorn]

Why don't you unban, when this case is obviously solved? I don't know what this is about, but it's getting frustrating. Just unban me so I can play

[Medicca]

As I was asked to review this as well, I posted my comments in the poll:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=14859&p=71236#p71236

However, I'm going to reproduce it here since this link would be used as evidence in case a ban is applied:

I also reviewed the replay twice and find it unlikely that Fangorn is maphacking:

Some points qtrinity made are worth noticing. Storm first checks top rune at 6:00, finds nothing, then goes bot. However, the rune has already been taken. He runs into two heroes.

Moreover:

At 14:00, Storm scouts the rune using his courier.

At ~19:10, although Doom accuses Storm of having too fast of a reaction time, remember that the ward on top river saw enemies incoming. Storm knew they were coming.

He plays well all game, having good reflexes when having vision. He bought observer wards and sentries throughout the game. He also runs into invis heroes and gets ganked. It's unlikely that someone with maphack would do this.

At 43:40, he has already finished the jungle. There's no point in staying there. He was nearly full on mana, I would've done the same. A maphacker with more awareness would not have stopped midway with ult.

Considering these points, I'd say he did not maphack this game.

[Yondaime]

I will review this tonight with a few other mods on teamspeak when they get on.

@Fangorn I am sorry about the time you have been waiting for but i have had some IRL issues along with some other issues on forum so that I was not able to take the time to exactly process this the way that I wanted.

Hopefully this shall be resolved tonight.

[Yondaime]

At the present time I am iffy about the fogclick that occured, throughout the game their was some suspicious play but overly I would not go out for maphacks.

The fogclick, now yes there was lag, but the click appears to be so random as fangorn had another click which inevitibly was delayed so therefore I am going to give fangorn a chance.

This maphack request is being denied and Fangorn shall be unbanned and I apologize greatly too him for the amount of time he has had to wait.

Now both parties that were obviously shown today do have some tensions between them. This is also being handled lets say as a complaint, there have been multiple arguments with this and there will no doubt be more.

@Qtrinity - this is over I have handled it, do not pursue the fact any longer by posting complaints, i will not be amused nor shall you like the outcomes of what will occur. Believe me.

@Fangorn again I apologize, obviously here you have too look at both sides of the sword though, in the end you are proven innocent at this time. If you are maphacking which i am not saying you are just in context, stop because there are most likely going to be people watching you especially after this drama filled shit-hole.

@Medicca thanks for your kind words and advice, i will see you in bed later.

@Agreements I hope overall that you are not upset with the decision that I have made nor hope that you are mad at me at the same time. I know that what you have told me is necessarily true as well but along with other posts I just do not think that this click is 100% legit, with talking from others about their mh/lag experience. However I shall see you in the bed room as well.

To everyone who is reading this: Here at ENT we are to provide fair and happy gaming, no doubt there will be trolling, flaming, and butt hurtness spreading around everywhere however we admins are all working hard too keep entgaming fun and fair. In the end of the day everyone is working to achieve the same thing. Not everyone is perfect, the only thing from this that we can expect is a lesson and knowledge, we may learn from our mistakes so that hopefully this does not happen again. Please do not hate on Agreements at all for he was trying to make ENT a better gaming environment, also in no way would he be "out to get someone" I know him and I have had our tensions never would he try to sabotage me or ruin anything he did keep his cool and is a great red admin.

I am Yondaime and this ban is processed.

Any further questions or info noting about if i made the right or wrong decision PM me or talk about it too me within chat.

Thanks to all who gave their points, and happy gaming.