Regarding Drahque's supsension

[Feor]

I was observer in game : https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=2386424

1)Diablo paused the game after a discussion with Iznogood and asked all players to take screenshot and post it on forum.

2)Suddenly Drahque unpauses game for a while ( Creeps with sends were near King before first pause, started attacking by the time someone paused again since people were alt tabbed )

3)Drahque posts a screenshot after the 2nd pause ( that he alone unpaused the game )

4)When confronted about the 2nd pause screenshot he says he has first also and he will post now ( originally he tried to post after game was over )

5)After a while of being tabbed he comes back saying he lost first screenshot since he saved the 2nd one on top of 1st and lost it.

6)When confronted about taking another screenshot he said he didn't know both teams had to post a screenshot in the original pause ( makes no point , contradicts himself telling that he already had first screenshot)

Now here lies the mystery. He contradicts his own saying in chat. He never answered why he did unpause the game. He never explains why he took a new screenshot.

Now just for the unpause he deserves a temporary unvouch.
However you need to take into account that he used a bannable action to avoid an even worse case scenario.

I can not confirm that Drahque maphacked into this game 100%, but taking into account all of his actions and his sayings in all chat ( the interesting story in chat starts from diablo's first pause ) , his actions are way too suspicious.


@Iznogood since the "investigation" on Drahque was made public from your post , I feel the rest of the community needs to have a basic idea of what happened.

[Iznogood]

I just wanted to avoid another flaming thread - so I decided to lock my info thread.
Keep it clean.. provide info if you got some..

I was obs at a very recent game where drahque had blasters - Drahque made 1 alch and 2 peewee's - no wisp.
Enemies did send warriors lvl 1. I will try find that game tomorrow.

Being very quite and suddenly not knowing how to make a screenshot are not 2 things I would combine with Drahque.

[Krumme]

Not gonna defend Drahque if this ends out to be true but that game you talk of Iznogood Feor stated that Drahque built alchemist and 2 peewee before we even started sending (ofc. in case of mh he could see the whisp numbers but thought you should know this=

[Iznogood]

(ofc. in case of mh he could see the whisp numbers

I'm happy you share your wisdom with me here - though I was the one who told you this

[Diablo_]

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=2385940
That's the game wich Alchemist/Pewees
Also suspicious regarding this: he started a Wisp but canceled it 1 sec before it finished (because - if he mhs - he could see that no one in the other team canceled their Wisps) and some seconds later he adds those Peewees.


I also want to point out one more thing in the screenshot test game. Besides everything known/stated in this thread, I also found it VERY strange that Drahque didn't write a single word for several minutes, even when he randomly unpaused (to turn off MH if it's true) he still haven't said a single word.

[ILOCOS_NORTE]

(ofc. in case of mh he could see the whisp numbers

I'm happy you share your wisdom with me here - though I was the one who told you this

Well if I can stand out to be smart then I do so !!
(fun fact I'm stupid as fuck)

(28:49 / All) Feor: he did alche +2 peewees but he had from before you guys send
(28:49 / All) Feor: so you cant blame him for me
(28:49 / All) Krumme: ^^
(28:49 / All) Krumme: mh*
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: nonono if he saw 2 wisps
[...]
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: its easy to foresee
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: warrs
[...]
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: or maybe hes just bad
[...]
(28:49 / All) Krumme: good point ilocos

[Drahque]

Since Feor described how he experienced things, I'll share my version:
1) Diablo_ paused and said SS-test, so I took a screenshot. When he didn't mention who it was, and I saw enemy team had posted on forum I thought it was their team who were tested (usually, or at least previous SS-test its been one team or one person, not whole game, that should take SS).

2) Since whole enemy team had posted a SS, I thought we were ready to go. We had already paused 3-4 times during that game and was tired of waiting.

3) Then someone pauses again, and tell me to make a SS, so I do and when I press "Print Screen" it overwrites the previous taken screenshot. Then I upload it and I thought we were good to go.

4) Feor states that he want the 1st screenshot and since I had saved my 2nd screenshot over the 1st, I couldn't upload it.

5) Iznogood whispers me telling me that I can say that I'm suspended and we can continue and investigate it after the game.

6) After all of the questionings, accusations and convictions my head really got overloaded so I decided to go to bed.

7) I woke up and weren't sure how to defend myself, when everyone already had accused me. So I logged on, spoke to Dweller and he suggested me to find the screenshot in my WC3 folder, which I did. A folder with whole 166 .TGA files that only can be opened one at a time. Converted the .TGA filed into .png and uploaded it.

8) I logged on forums, uploaded my original 1st screenshot, and wrote this afterwards.



In response to the Goblin Alchemist game:

Also suspicious regarding this: he started a Wisp but canceled it 1 sec before it finished (because - if he mhs - he could see that no one in the other team canceled their Wisps) and some seconds later he adds those Peewees.
- The game: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=2385940

To clear things up:
a) When a game starts, the first thing I ALWAYS do, is start a wisp (which most people do), then afterwards I check my rolls.
b) If my best roll or possible start is a T6, then I cancel my wisp and build that.
c) In case my 1st tower is an Outcast, Halfbreed, Alchemist or anything that can be fucked over by warriors I usually wait to make a wisp till after lvl 1 has started, to prevent not schrewed lvl 2 and 3. Like, if you make 3 aquas and 4/0 and get warriors lvl 1, you cannot afford 2 more aquas lvl 2 and those risk leaking lvl 2 and 3. So, why take the risk that your game is ruined just because you made that extra wisp, which indeed isn't worth the 10-12 lumber that you get before lvl 1 starts.

Usually, if I have time, I look at my teammates and if they are weak lvl 1 I overbuild and if not I don't. If I were to look through my last XY replays, I'm sure I can find both replays in which I stayed 1/0 and also replays in which I get fucked by warriors because I took the risk.

So just because I learn from my mistakes, such as not making 4/0 with 3 aquas or 2/0 with goblin alchemist, it doesn't mean I'm maphacking. And if you think so, I'm sure I can find replays in which other people are lucky as well, but being lucky does not equal maphack. Also, do you really think I would be in the bottom of the league, if I were cheating? huh?

[aRt)Y]

Warcraft 3 overwrites existing screenshots? If you did two screenshots, then there should be two in the folder.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Warcraft III\Screenshots

[Drahque]

Warcraft 3 overwrites existing screenshots? If you did two screenshots, then there should be two in the folder.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Warcraft III\Screenshots

Warcraft 3 itself doesn't overwrite a taken screenshot no, but when you physically press "Print Screen" and go to Paint and press CTRL+V, then it pastes the last taken screenshot. Since I also took one after Feor informed me to take one, I couldn't get the first screenshot without looking through all my 166 screenshots in that folder and afterwards find out how to convert .tga into .png or .jpg, since the forum doesn't allow us to upload .tga files. After speaking to Dweller, he suggested that I should find that screenshot and upload it, which I did.

[ILOCOS_NORTE]

Warcraft 3 overwrites existing screenshots? If you did two screenshots, then there should be two in the folder.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Warcraft III\Screenshots

He do have two screenshots. It's just that he saved the first one with paint (for *jpeg) and then overwrote that with the second screenshot, losing the first one.
One day later he took that 1. screenshot out of the wc3 folder (wich he didnt do before).

[ILOCOS_NORTE]

2.1) Since whole enemy team had posted a SS, I thought we were ready to go. We had already paused 3-4 times during that game and was tired of waiting.

3) Then someone pauses again, and tell me to make a SS, so I do and when I press "Print Screen" it overwrites the previous taken screenshot. Then I upload it and I thought we were good to go.

*2.2) You unpaused a game with afk players without asking!

[Iznogood]

1) Diablo_ paused and said SS-test, so I took a screenshot. When he didn't mention who it was, and I saw enemy team had posted on forum I thought it was their team who were tested (usually, or at least previous SS-test its been one team or one person, not whole game, that should take SS).

(28:40 / All) Diablo_: wait
(28:40 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: other way round
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: screenshot test
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: from iznogood
(28:40 / All) Krumme: dafq
(28:40 / All) Krumme: xD
(28:40 / All) Krumme: we own that much :p?
(28:40 / Allied) trancedout: minor leak? they leaked to king
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: all make screenshot and post in forums
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: you can ask iznogood he says
(28:40 / All) skillerinstinct: but they see my mh then
(28:40 / All) trancedout: post now ?
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: yea I guess so
(28:40 / All) trancedout: shit izno always ruining my game
(28:40 / All) trancedout: lol
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: all understood?
(28:40 / All) skillerinstinct: k going alt tab
(28:40 / All) skillerinstinct: y
(28:40 / All) trancedout: post under where
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: forums lihl section
(28:40 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: where to post?
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: forums lihl section
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: theres a thread with screenshots
(28:40 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: ok
(28:40 / All) trancedout: ANNOUNCEMENT: You can now select the location to host in (Atlanta, Chicago, Germany)! See https://entgaming.net/publichosting
(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct: heh
(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct: who unpaused?
(28:49 / All) Feor: drahque
(28:49 / All) Feor: but why ?
(28:49 / All) Krumme: wtf
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: wtf

So you basically just happened to miss 5min of the chat and chose to resume the game without counting down like you did before in that game?
Makes no sense that you would just resume the game without knowing what's going on.

(11:06 / All) trancedout: everyone here?
(11:06 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: y
(11:06 / All) Drahque: im here
(11:06 / All) Diablo_: y
(11:06 / All) Drahque: ok
(11:06 / All) Drahque: 3
(11:06 / All) Drahque: 2
(11:06 / All) Drahque: 1

2) Since whole enemy team had posted a SS, I thought we were ready to go. We had already paused 3-4 times during that game and was tired of waiting.

(28:40 / All) Diablo_: all make screenshot and post in forums

3) Then someone pauses again, and tell me to make a SS, so I do and when I press "Print Screen" it overwrites the previous taken screenshot. Then I upload it and I thought we were good to go.

(28:49 / All) Drahque: y im here
(28:49 / All) Drahque: all fine
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: fine
(28:49 / All) trancedout: all re?
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: go
(28:49 / All) Feor: drahquye
(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct:
(28:49 / All) Feor: wait
(28:49 / All) Feor: why did you post
(28:49 / All) Feor: ss of 2nd pause?
(28:49 / All) Feor: and not first?
(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct: haha
(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct: owned
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: busted
(28:49 / All) Drahque: ill get 1st pause nps i got 2

Makes absolutely no sense that you would make a screenshot from 1st pause as you were supposed to - then resume/pause and make a 2nd screenshot.
That screenshot you decided to delete shortly after.

4) Feor states that he want the 1st screenshot and since I had saved my 2nd screenshot over the 1st, I couldn't upload it.

I find it almost impossible to believe that you could't upload your first screenshot
- Also I don't know how it happened that you say you didn't know about the screenshot test - yet you state that you deleted your first screenshot by taking a 2nd after you resumed/paused.
- I find it highest unlikely that you would act like that strange resuming the game.
- You deleted the screenshot you uploaded shortly after.

5) Iznogood whispers me telling me that I can say that I'm suspended and we can continue and investigate it after the game.

After I saw your screenshot I could verify that what the others have told me was true - that you resumed/paused the game and uploaded a screenshot that didn't match the others.

6) After all of the questionings, accusations and convictions my head really got overloaded so I decided to go to bed.

You might have went to bed.. but your head wasn't more overloaded than you took your time to delete your screenshot.

7) I woke up and weren't sure how to defend myself, when everyone already had accused me. So I logged on, spoke to Dweller and he suggested me to find the screenshot in my WC3 folder, which I did. A folder with whole 166 .TGA files that only can be opened one at a time. Converted the .TGA filed into .png and uploaded it.

Now you have had whole 16hours to edit your screenshot - it's no secret that you know how to do it.. just start from here:

Lol, a person can just take a screenshot right after the arena, and use it for lvl 19.

In order for a person to hide his maphack, he only have to do 3 or 4 clicks on the Print Screen button per game and spends 3 seconds in paint to swap out.. Can't believe I'm even sharing this, just gonna allow maphackers to keep using it.

source:
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=18436&start=10
Until @agreements can confirm something regarding your screenshot you will remain suspended.

[Drahque]

1) When I Saw "Screenshot test" I tabbed out of the game.
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: wait
(28:40 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: other way round
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: screenshot test
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: from iznogood
*tabbed out*

After opening "paint", I tabbed back in and took a screenshot at this moment:
*tabbed in*
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: yea I guess so
(28:40 / All) trancedout: shit izno always ruining my game
(28:40 / All) trancedout: lol
*screenshot*
(28:40 / All) Diablo_: all understood?
(28:40 / All) skillerinstinct: k going alt tab
(28:40 / All) skillerinstinct: y
*tabbed out*

*tabbed in*
(28:40 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: ok
(28:40 / All) trancedout: ANNOUNCEMENT: You can now select the location to host in (Atlanta, Chicago, Germany)! See https://entgaming.net/publichosting
*unpaused*

After seeing on forums that whole enemy team had posted (Skillerinstinct, Ilocos and Krumme), and thoose thought we were ready to go. So at around 12:19 when I Saw Krumme (last enemy) had posted, I un-paused the game. All of this happened over 2-3 minutes (~12:17-12:19).

I never said I didn't know what was going on, but I did indeed miss a lot of chat while being tabbed out and checking forums. And when I counted down at 11:06, I thought it was probably going over hand to count down, which is also why I didn't count down at 13:58, on the 2nd pause of the game. Also, if you check any of my other games, I usually don't count down, so you can't use: "chose to resume the game without counting down like you did before in that game?" against me.


2) I was tabbed out at that moment.


3) I never used the first screenshot because I figured out it was enemies that was tested:
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: ok i posted
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: rdy
(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct: me too
(28:49 / All) Krumme: rdy
...
(28:49 / All) Diablo_: drahque your screenshot is missing
*tabbed out*

Found out I also had to post, so tabbed out, pressed CTRL+V in paint, saved it and posted it at 12:23. Only ~1 minute after Diablo_ told me to.

*tabbed in*
(28:49 / All) trancedout: waiting on dra
(28:49 / All) Drahque: y im here
(28:49 / All) Drahque: all fine
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: fine
(28:49 / All) trancedout: all re?
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: go
(28:49 / All) Feor: drahquye
(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct:
(28:49 / All) Feor: wait
(28:49 / All) Feor: why did you post
(28:49 / All) Feor: ss of 2nd pause?
(28:49 / All) Feor: and not first?
(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct: haha
(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct: owned
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: busted
(28:49 / All) Drahque: ill get 1st pause nps i got 2
(28:49 / All) Feor: get it now
*tabbed out*

Since I was told the screenshot I had posted wasn't correct, I tabbed out to find the other screenshot. Since I had pressed Print Screen twice, I figured out I couldn't get it and tabbed back in:

*tabbed in*
(28:49 / All) Drahque: idk where first ss is, it oversaved in paint
...
*came up with an idea*
...
(28:49 / All) Drahque: might have 1st SS in the wc3 folder, ill find look through after
*tabbed out*

After figuring out the 1st SS might be in my wc3 folder, I tabbed out to try and find it. Since I had whole 166 SS in that folder and its .tga files, so they have to be opened one-by-one with my only program that could open them (PictureViewer) it seemed like it would take forever to find, and people were getting annoyed of waiting, so we decided to continue as seen:

(28:49 / All) skillerinstinct: k lets go
(28:49 / Allied) ILOCOS_NORTE: orange?
(28:49 / All) Krumme: all rdy?
(28:49 / All) ILOCOS_NORTE: ok go
(28:49 / All) trancedout: yea
*un-paused*


4) When I tried to upload the first screenshot, it didn't allow me and I figured it was due to already having 1 screenshot - because I remember that one time it only allowed me to upload 1 picture in a PM. So I tried to delete it to see if it allowed me to upload my 1st screenshot, but it didn't allow me since it was a .TGA file.


5) Yes, I uploaded the screenshot from after pause, because it was the only one I had in my hands at that given moment, due to "print screen" overwriting and the WC3 folder hadn't come up in my mind yet.


6) Read 5.. If there is one thing I don't like on Earth, it's when people are waiting for me, and with all the preassure, questions, accusations, convictions, 7-8 people waiting, a moderator whispering and trying to find out how to get a screenshot that was overwritten and uploading a file that the forums doesn't allow, you don't think all of that helped me think clearer?


7) Just beacuse I know how to do something, it doesn't mean I've done it. After finding the correct screenshot, I converted it and uploaded it as Dweller suggested.

--> I hope this gives a better understanding of how it went on from my screen/perspective, because when you check chat, you consider it from a perspective that I've read all of what's been written, but that's not true. When you tab in and out, you miss a lot of what's being said and those not a full understanding of what's going on.

[bit]

you always have bunch of lame excuses if what. you can sort by date in every folder, genius, and don't tell me you don't know computers that well to realise that. also there's timestamps in every screenshot file name;

oh bad bad players and moderators asked for a screenshot, i can't think clearly, i'll better unpause for no reason, and then go to sleep. like, really?

[Drahque]

I just wanted to avoid another flaming thread

Keep it clean..