mtadas - incompentence

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mtadas - incompentence

Postby Stealer » Tue May 27, 2014 7:39 pm

Attempted to handle via pm, unsuccessful.

Matdas rebanned a user for "fog clicks" that the user had already been unbanned for via an appeal.

The reason the user was unbanned was because the clicks were not valid.
wiki.entgaming wrote:Clicking side shops: These clicks ca not be confirmed to be maphacking.

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Re: mtadas - incompentence

Postby Love » Tue May 27, 2014 7:55 pm

@Cambriouleuse the clicks that matdas provided in the 2nd ban were different clicks. The original click was a smart order and as BouncingHitman explained was not solid evidence, the selections inside of the fog of war however were pretty clear evidence. I have not actually watched the replay to see if he had vision of the Swedish Lumber Mill but I am assuming that the clicks were made inside fog of war.
EDIT: These two clicks
17:41 <tyuky147> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Swedish Lumber Mill], 0x0000397800003978
18:02 <tyuky147> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Swedish Lumber Mill], 0x0000397800003978
seemed to be the deciding factor.
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Re: mtadas - incompentence

Postby Stealer » Tue May 27, 2014 7:56 pm

Love wrote:@Cambriouleuse the clicks that matdas provided in the 2nd ban were different clicks.

So why is it in processed instead of awaiting.

the selections inside of the fog of war however were pretty clear evidence..

I made 1 quote in the OP, I suggest you read it.

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Re: mtadas - incompentence

Postby Love » Tue May 27, 2014 8:01 pm

The reason it is in processed is because nabo. banned (where it is moved to confirmation) then matdas confirmed (moved to processed). As to the wiki.entgaming rules, it is most likely referring to something else, selecting a shop that is inside of the fog of war is a pretty obvious sign of MapHack .-. no reason not to ban a MapHacker just because he clicked a shop instead of a hero, or boat in this case.
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Re: mtadas - incompentence

Postby Diablo_ » Tue May 27, 2014 8:17 pm

I think Camb is talking about sevenswords, not about tyuky147.

Edit:
12:49 <SevenSwordS> 0x19: Select Subgroup: [Swedish Lumber Mill] 0x0000397800003978
He had sight of it at this time already, no?
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Re: mtadas - incompentence

Postby nabo. » Tue May 27, 2014 8:25 pm

I forgot to come back to that brq. Anyway, im rechecking now. Wait for my answer.

Edit:

There was a confusion. Mat, just like me, probably checked the replay OP provided which was a desync replay. Under the desync replay, they did fog click. But, under the normal replay, both users do not have any legit fog click.

Both users are unbanned.
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Re: mtadas - incompentence

Postby Yondaime » Tue May 27, 2014 8:29 pm

I will check this myself as well soon.
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Re: mtadas - incompentence

Postby matdas » Tue May 27, 2014 8:33 pm

You are asking in the PM for an unban of a player that is not even you. I stated that i do not unban players through PM. If the player wants to appeal the ban he can. Saying I am incompetence has no weight.

Whether the ban is right or wrong, a complaint doesnt do justice for a player not involved on either side of the equation. If said player wants to be unbanned, then he should post an appeal.

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Re: mtadas - incompentence

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Tue May 27, 2014 8:40 pm

He made a mistake. It happens all the time, to everyone. If you want to honestly argue that a moderator is incompetent,get 5-10 examples of dumb mistakes the mod made.

Yes, he should have checked the other ban before banning the user. But, if we demoted mods every time they made an error in banning, we would have.. no moderators. Literally.

Things like this are exactly why we have 2 moderators review MH bans, and why we have an appeal process. Seeing as the person got unbanned by the process by the 2nd moderator, it seems that everything is working as intended.


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